Jsonnet Reviews and details

Social recommendations and mentions

• A Reasonable Configuration Language

  Jsonnet[1] and kapitan[2] are the tools I currently use. Their learning curve is not optimal (and I tried to contribute to smoothen it with a jsonnet course[3] and a 'get started wit kapitan' blog post[4]), but once used to it it's hard to do without, and their combination makes them even more useful (esp. If you deploy K8s). In Ruud's case, Jsonnet might have been worth looking at as Hashicorp tools can be... - Source: Hacker News / 3 months ago

• Pkl, a Programming Language for Configuration

  Kubernetes config is a decent example. I had ChatGPT generate a representative silly example -- the content doesn't matter so much as the structure: https://gist.github.com/cstrahan/528b00cd5c3a22e3d8f057bb1a75ea61 Now consider 100s (if not 1000s) of such files. I haven't given Pkl an in depth look yet, but I can say that the Industry Standard™ of "simple YAML" + string substitution (with delicate, error prone... - Source: Hacker News / 3 months ago

• What Is Wrong with TOML?

  Maybe you'd like jsonnet: https://jsonnet.org/ I find it particularly useful for configurations that often have repeated boilerplate, like ansible playbooks or deploying a bunch of "similar-but" services to kubernetes (with https://tanka.dev). Dhall is also quite interesting, with some tradeoffs: https://dhall-lang.org/ A few years ago I did a small comparison by re-implementing one of my simpler ansible... - Source: Hacker News / 8 months ago

• That people produce HTML with string templates is telling us something

  Apologies for the lack of context, and for missing this comment until today. Both are tools for defining kubernetes manifests (which are YAML) in a reusable manner. Jsonnet is a formally specified extension of JSON. It’s essentially a functional programming language (w/some object oriented features) that generates config files in JSON/YAML/etc, so it’s straightforward to determine whether an input file is valid,... - Source: Hacker News / 11 months ago

• TOML: Tom's Obvious Minimal Language

  I like Google's Jsonnet [1], which has all of this except for 4. Jsonnet is quite mature, with fairly wide language adoption, and has the benefit of supporting expressions, including conditionals, arithmetic, as well as being able to define reusable blocks inside function definitions or external files. It's not suitable as a serialization format, but great for config. It's popular in some circles, but I'm sad that... - Source: Hacker News / 11 months ago

• The YAML Document from Hell

  I wonder why generated JSON is not used more widely, something like jsonnet[0], although I've never used it. Most systems come with Python 3 installed, which supports working with JSON[1] without installing any dependencies. So, I'm wondering if we could use Python to generate JSON data that is then consumed by other tools. This would fix the lack of comments and trailing commas in JSON, you get functions and... - Source: Hacker News / over 1 year ago

• What tech stack do you use at work? What's your favourite one?

  Fwiw, jsonnet was a breath of fresh air to help tackle our configuration complexity. Source: over 1 year ago

• Should i migrate from Kustomize to Helm?

  We experimented with Jsonnet and Dhall as languages that allow you to compose structured text files rather than template then. With hindsight I can tell you that the supporting tooling (linting, testing, package management) never materialized for Jsonnet, and Dhall is too complex unless you have a lot of Haskell devs. Source: over 1 year ago

• Nginx ingress controller: how to insert whitelist-source-range annotations globally, but conditionally at the same time?

  You can do this sort of thing (and generally keeping everything DRY) by generating your manifests programatically. I use jsonnet (https://jsonnet.org/) to generate k8s manifests, but there are other tools... Source: over 1 year ago

• Why We Use CUE (and Not Helm)

  Jsonnet promises to be JSON plus templating, and that's exactly what it delivers. It allows you to include other files and has many useful features such as variables and functions. Jsonnet overall was a pretty decent Experience, and we could've stopped there. - Source: dev.to / over 1 year ago

• Show HN: Jsonnet Course Online

  I hope you enjoy the course (I'm interested in your feedback!) and if it makes you start using Jsonnet it will be mission accomplished :-) [1] https://jsonnet.org/. - Source: Hacker News / over 1 year ago

• Managing multiple repos

  You can use JSONNET and 'std.parseYaml' function for more precision tuning. Source: over 1 year ago

• We want to make Nix better

  > To seriously answer the question: is the Nix language required for the Nix packaging system to exist? Laziness is required, to some degree, but can the next iteration provide an on-ramp which doesn't involve learning a new lang and paradigm? Guix folks sure think so. I'd love to hear from someone deeply familiar with Nix and Guix about laziness. I'm deeply familiar with Nix and I've concluded that lazy semantics... - Source: Hacker News / over 1 year ago

• Falling for Kubernetes

  > As an aside, the existence of the '{{ | indent 4 }}' function in helm should disqualify it from any serious use. Render, don't template. This. My first thought when I saw the indentation hack was "it can't be a serious, production-ready software". My take on this is as follows. If you have a simple use case, write your K8s manifests directly. If you have a complex use case, Helm is often more pain than its... - Source: Hacker News / over 1 year ago

• HELM vs KUSTOMIZE

  There's json generation libraries. Don't know why they didn't mention jsonnet, which is much more popular than either one and has fairly wide usage in the k8s community. Source: almost 2 years ago

• Why JSON Isn’t a Good Configuration Language (2018)

  Jsonnet[1] might suit your use-case better, it was created to do exactly that. [1]https://jsonnet.org. - Source: Hacker News / almost 2 years ago

• Jasonette – Native App over HTTP

  There is already Jsonnet the data templating language: https://jsonnet.org/. - Source: Hacker News / almost 2 years ago

• More work

  You still use JSON? Have you heard of https://jsonnet.org/ ? yaml? Source: almost 2 years ago

• Config file formats suck

  If you needs templating you can use jsonnet: https://jsonnet.org/ if you need scheme constraints you can use JSON-SCHEME: https://json-schema.org/ That is the whole design you add on what you need for your specific requirements. This gets back to the core philosophy of the Unix way vs something like JEE. The Unix way, is that you add on the functionality you need via pluggable parts as you need them. The JEE way... Source: about 2 years ago

• Jo – a shell command to create JSON

  "Even though Python isn't the fastest language out there, it's likely still faster than the shell command above." That is going a bit far. By all means use Python. Go ahead and attack people who use the shell. But let's be honest. The shell is faster, assuming one knows how to use it. A similar claim is often made by Python advocates, something along the lines of Python is not slow if one knows how to use it.... - Source: Hacker News / about 2 years ago

• Alternatives to Terragrunt

  I generate terraform from jsonnet to get rid of repetition. See https://jsonnet.org/. Source: over 2 years ago