Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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PocketBase.io

I'd probably go with NextJS and Pocketbase[0]. I like to start with everything on a single instance/machine, cheaper and less overhead, allows me to focus more on building things rather than ops. [0] https://pocketbase.io/.

#Realtime Backend / API #Web Frameworks #Open Source 92 social mentions

2

Encore.dev

This is one of the core use cases where Encore [1] really shines. It helps you get up and running really quickly by natively supporting common cloud infrastructure components (databases, Pub/Sub, caching, cron jobs, secrets management, etc), and a simple low-boilerplate way of defining APIs. It automatically provides API docs, architecture diagrams, and infrastructure provisioning, based on static analysis of your code base. Disclaimer: I'm one of the founders. [1] https://encore.dev.

#Backend Framework #Go Lang #SaaS 79 social mentions

3

Wasp-lang Alpha

You might also want to check out <a href="https://wasp-lang.dev/">https://wasp-lang.dev/</a> - it lets you use React & Node.js (although it seems you prefer php), but you don't have to write API endpoints + everything works out-of-the-box (disclaimer: I'm one of the main contributors to the project).

#Web App #Open Source #SaaS 121 social mentions

4

RedwoodJS

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned https://redwoodjs.com Here's why I'd pick it: 1. One language for the whole stack. It's an MVP so the front and back are both changing fast, with changes made by the same person, and you don't want to context switch all the time. 1a. Javascript as that language because it's the most flexible. And with TypeScript you can gradually opt into type constraints where they help you. 2. An opinionated full stack like Ruby on Rails that integrates all the pieces I need to ship. When you assemble yourself, even small version bumps or outdated tutorials can send you down a rabbit hole, stealing time from testing PMF. You want someone to validate a combination in which all the pieces work together smoothly. 2a. Redwood.js closest to be being the Ruby on Rails of JavaScript. I've toyed with it before and got up and running quickly. Its opinions took a lot of unimportant decisions out of my hands and let me focus on what I was trying to produce. I didn't get so far as to confirm this but it also seems to make it easy to gradually drop the scaffolding if the opinions and simplifications ever get in your way.

#Developer Tools #Web App #Development Tools 47 social mentions

Nowadays, Django has an <i>amazing</i> library which is a lot like FastAPI but in the Django ecosystem. https://django-ninja.rest-framework.com/ It's absolutely wonderful. I would use that in a MVP, and do the F/E in NextJS + Typescript.

#Application And Data #Languages & Frameworks #Microframeworks (Backend) 26 social mentions

6

Directus

Directus connected to a Postgres database Comes with a built-in low-config UI/API for CRUD on the database, and easily extendable with Vue.js and Express endpoints. Additionally, should the need arise for something more custom later on, all your data is in Postgres rather than a backend as a service https://directus.io/.

#CMS #Blogging #Blogging Platform 123 social mentions

7

Hasura

I've been pretty deep in backend engineering a while, but despite that I strongly try to use Hasura [0] whenever I can. IME backend engineering isn't a differentiator, and I've written enough REST/GraphQL endpoints/tests/blahblahblah. I think Django and Rails are amazing, but if I ever have to use them again I'll probably sigh deep and resign myself to sadness. On top it's probably Tailwind, and if it's just me I'd use Svelte, but if it's more than just me I'd use React. [0]: https://hasura.io.

#GraphQL #Realtime Backend / API #API Tools 122 social mentions

8

Supabase

My first choice if the product is a good fit would be old school Django deployed to a single VPS (no docker). I am creating a public starter kit that does exactly that, including the deployment part: https://stribny.github.io/sidewinder/ However, there are lots of use cases that would call for additional SPA (Vue/Nuxt), or other tech. So in that case I'd add it or replace the tech stack entirely. I'd probably avoid specialized cloud services, might consider something like <a href="https://supabase.com">https://supabase.com</a> tho if the app doesn't need a complex backend.

#Developer Tools #Realtime Backend / API #Backend As A Service 500 social mentions

9

Vite

This is the correct answer. It's quite shocking how many Django and Laravel answers there are in this thread. Performance and type safety appear to be completely irrelevant to HN. You should take a look at Vite (https://vitejs.dev/) for a Vue development environment, if you haven't already.

#Software Development #Web Frameworks #Developer Tools 462 social mentions

10

Avo for Ruby on Rails

Nothing really beats Rails. Use something like Jumpstart (jumpstartrails.com) and Avo (https://avohq.io) and you scaffold a full consumer-ready app in literally a few hours. The thing that bugs me the most with Next.JS and the whole JAMStack movement is that, yeah, you get from "git clone" to deployed on Vercel in two minutes, but if you need to create real app features like a sturdy admin, accounts, authorization, proper asset management, CI/CD, it takes a whole lotta time. I'm not even touching the most common app features.

#CRM #Programming Language #Developer Tools 12 social mentions

11

DaisyUI

#Design Tools #User Experience #Developer Tools 156 social mentions

12

Deno

I'd run an API using Deno (https://deno.land), and consume that API with an SSR/SSG site built using Astro (https://astro.build). SCSS for styling, and probably just Vanilla JS (written in Typescript and compiled via Deno) — I increasingly find that unless my site is massively interactive, plain old Vanilla JS is totally sufficient.

#Typescript #JavaScript #Web Development Tools 200 social mentions

13

Astro Build

I'd run an API using Deno (https://deno.land), and consume that API with an SSR/SSG site built using Astro (https://astro.build). SCSS for styling, and probably just Vanilla JS (written in Typescript and compiled via Deno) — I increasingly find that unless my site is massively interactive, plain old Vanilla JS is totally sufficient.

#Website Builder #Blogging #Blogging Platform 246 social mentions

14

Nest.js

I really like NestJS for backend. It has great tooling and generators. It's super fast to create a REST or GraphQL API. Adding WebSockets is a breeze if you need them. It uses TypeORM which is rock solid. Also, it includes unit and e2e tests and linting out of the box. Also, if you're doing your frontend in TypeScript it's trivial to share interfaces for "type safety" across the wire. https://nestjs.com/.

#Web Frameworks #Developer Tools #JavaScript Framework 217 social mentions

15

Amazon CloudFront

#CDN #Cloud Computing #Content Distribution 78 social mentions

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Byet.host

Https://byet.host/ last time I checked, but I haven't actually test it yet.

#CMS #Web Hosting #Development 6 social mentions