I’ve read this response before, and I don’t think it’s great: it makes claims about time-testedness and simplicity that on first glance apply to PGP, but in reality are either outright wrong (the results against MDC instead of true AEAD are in, and it’s a fail) or misleading in their conclusions (a “simple” packet structure that encourages EXPTIME parsing is not actually simple). The assumption underlying much of... - Source: Hacker News / 20 days ago
Taking the long road back to Delta Chat? https://delta.chat/en/. - Source: Hacker News / 2 months ago
You could use delta chat https://delta.chat/en/ and a totally LAN only email server. Source: 5 months ago
And if neither of those blow your skirt up there's another project I recently heard of but haven't tried yet called Delta Chat. Not endorsing it as I haven't used it but came across it researching the current state of encrypted messengers. Does everything over email and makes your email look exactly like a chat. Has encryption if you set it up with your recipients and disappearing messages if the other person... Source: 5 months ago
> I don't think people fall back to SMTP when a chat product goes away, I think they find a new centralized proprietary chat product. ...after they told their "friends" (i.e. Other users of the failed app) via email about that hot new app that is totally going to be the place to be. That is what I mean with "SMTP abides", it is there and will be there while the centralised proprietary churn comes and goes. SMTP... - Source: Hacker News / 9 months ago
My back-up solution is hosting an internal mail server and use DeltaChat to have a messenger-like experience for myself. Source: 10 months ago
Check out DeltaChat [1] :-) It uses emails for chatting. Though personally, I'm quite happy with this separation of emails and chats. They are for different stuff. [1] https://delta.chat/en/. - Source: Hacker News / 10 months ago
Also, isn't downloading and using DeltaChat would be easier? It used autocrypt protocol out of the box as well bunch of useful features and feels more like comfortable messenger than email. Source: 12 months ago
Do any of you know about Delta Chat? It's an email client with the layout of a Messenger. (Check out the screenshots for a visual reference). Source: about 1 year ago
Use Pleroma instead of Mastodon, it is quite easy to host and only takes a fraction of the resources Mastodon does - it idles at 165 MB on my test instance (single user logged in, no activity). From what I've seen it should possible for non-technical people to self-host it as long as there is a possibility for remote-access assistance (and there's your business model, sell wall warts with self-hosted services with... - Source: Hacker News / about 1 year ago
You could also check out https://delta.chat/en/ – I don’t know anything about it, so not sure if it meets your requirements. Source: over 1 year ago
Someone posted delta chat[0] on here a while back. Basically chat that is email. Or maybe email that is chat. It struck me as a clever idea at the time and got me thinking whether you could make a social network entirely out of email. Sounds bonkers and probably is but you know, gotta think, right? [0] https://delta.chat/en/. - Source: Hacker News / over 1 year ago
Delta Chat, it's real time end to end encryption using IMAP and GnuPG in the backend meaning it works with and uses any email account you have. Source: over 1 year ago
You basically want something closer to an IM UX. Delta chat does this: https://delta.chat/en/ Only issue: Delta Chat doesn't allow to change the subject, so your conversation with someone is going to be a looooong unique thread. I am myself thinking about doing something closer to what zulip does, with subjects as "channels". Yet another side project. - Source: Hacker News / over 1 year ago
Hi, My name is River, 24, from Nanjing, China(中国南京). I am a programmer by profession and I want to improve my English. I'm looking forward to having a language exchange partner. I think we can communicate through Delta Chat first, I think it's a cool communication app(Another reason is that I can't guarantee to stay outside the wall 24 hours a day,But this app‘s communication using the protocol of e-mail). Source: over 1 year ago
>> the system has to be rearchitected to solve > If it was obvious how to, we'd be talking about that, but it's not even obvious how to We're in agreement, both on that and on your points on how innovation does happen. Basically all of the decentralization projects in the past ten years, from federation to p2p to blockchains, have been taking a stab at the greenfield approach. None of them have worked in the sense... - Source: Hacker News / about 2 years ago
Requirement 1: It should be backwards compatible with existing email systems. As examples, consider Delta Chat and the Autocrypt specification it's built on. https://delta.chat/en/ https://autocrypt.org/. - Source: Hacker News / about 2 years ago
Delta is also viable. I use it for IM and it is TOFU based PGP encryption. It works OK for general email too, though that's not the focus. See: https://delta.chat/en/. - Source: Hacker News / about 2 years ago
It would be great if social networks and messaging apps were interoperable, but there are going to be some difficult questions about how that can be done securely. For example, Facebook years ago added support for sending PGP encrypted emails to users[0], so in theory they should be able to allow users to publish their Facebook posts to non-Facebook users using that same open standard. They could even be forced... - Source: Hacker News / about 2 years ago
Probably the best example of easy end-to-end email encryption (EoEE2EEE?) is Delta Chat[0] which uses Autocrypt[1]. [0] https://delta.chat/en/ [1] https://delta.chat/en/help#which-standards-are-used-for-end-to-end-encryption. - Source: Hacker News / about 2 years ago
That's why I said https://delta.chat/en/ ;) An email-based messenger with https://autocrypt.org/. Source: over 2 years ago
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