XMPP VS SimpleX chat

We currently have the Matrix protocol, with client applications such as Element supporting it. We also have XMPP as another option. Generally more modern than IRC, these platforms are primarily developed as FOSS software. This makes it less likely for developers to impact their users negatively. However, despite these advantages, these platforms lack the refined user experience (addictiveness and stickiness) that... Source: about 1 year ago

That's essentially what we had with Jabber/XMPP [0] and OTR [1]. Since the encryption happened client-side, it would also work across networks. There was a time when Google chat, Facebook Messengers and other high profile chat networks could all interconnect through it. [0] https://xmpp.org/. - Source: Hacker News / about 1 year ago

Xmpp there's loads of clients for it no phone number needed https://xmpp.org/ pick a server loads have sign up via the client. Source: over 1 year ago

I present to you a MUC I've created on the XMPP (also informally known as Jabber) network. I've put some thought into which network would be best fit and decided that, while IRC is an excellent way to chat, there is an apparent lack of mobile support and perhaps lacks the ability to choose a server of your choice. Furthermore, I've concluded for many years that Matrix isn't a good choice for multiple concerning... Source: almost 2 years ago

Interoperability of messaging used to be the case, and the underlying tech is there. At one point, Messages, AOL Instant Messenger, Facebook, and Google Talk / Hangouts / Voice all supported exchanging messages via the IETF XMPP (Jabber) messaging standard. Sometime in the mid 2010s, the services started removing XMPP support, presumably in an order to differentiate their platforms and lock people in. Source: almost 2 years ago

For messaging I'm currently on Olvid (E2E with physical key exchange) but since it still use their servers, I'm currently testing SimpleX where I can host my own servers. Source: 5 months ago

Notice how SimpleX (https://simplex.chat/) has no push notifications by default because of this issue. - Source: Hacker News / 5 months ago

I've been using SimpleX [0] with a couple of friends recently. It appears to work as advertised. [0] https://simplex.chat. - Source: Hacker News / 8 months ago

If you have a mobile phone number, the domestic intelligence agency knows exactly where you are at all times and any LEO (without a warrant) can also find you. In addition, there have been numerous CCC presentations showing how insecure the global (excluding US) and (separately) US carriers are guilty of promiscuous metadata trafficking ($$) and insecure SS7 setups. As a consequence, for low $, you can go to any... - Source: Hacker News / 8 months ago

People should switch to SimpleX instead: https://simplex.chat. - Source: Hacker News / 10 months ago