Ask HN: Do you use Purism, PinePhone, or Fairphone?

Using a PinePhone or a Librem 5 phone means using open hardware in addition to an open source operating system. That's not the only option: since Android is also open source, based on a modified Linux kernel, there are Android derivatives, CalyxOS[1] and GrapheneOS[2], that allow (at least partial) access to the Android app ecosystem, but remove Android's nosy bits, i.e. Google Play Services (location services, authentication, sync through Google’s cloud infrastructure, etc.) Both systems require proprietary, closed Google Pixel hardware, but it's unlikely that Google Pixel hardware alone implements mass-surveillance measures such as the Apple/NCMEC initiative. CalyxOS (includes open source MicroG vs. Vanilla Google Play Services) seems somewhat more app compatibility -oriented, while GrapheneOS (includes Sandboxed Google Play Services vs. Vanilla Google Play Services) seems more security-oriented. There might also be phone performance differences between the two, so it's worth researching further. [1] https://calyxos.org.

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